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Muon

A matrix-based optimizer used primarily for matrix parameters, with orthogonalization as a distinguishing feature in the supplied evidence.

Also called Muon optimizer, Muon matrix-based optimizer.

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One count per evidence span, weakest treatment to strongest.

used 10core 3

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Evidence

13 spans quoted from the sources, strongest treatment first.

We employ the Muon optimizer for the majority of modules in DeepSeek-V4 series

coreoptimizationin DeepSeek-V4DeepSeek

We use Muon as the main optimizer

coreoptimizationin Qwen3.8-NextQwen

We use the Muon optimizer [39], specifically the Moonlight variant of Liu et al. [49], across all training stages

coreoptimizationin LAGUNA M.1 and LAGUNA XS.2Poolside

Muon Optimizer: employs the Muon optimizer for faster convergence and improved training stability.

usedoptimizationin DeepSeek-V4DeepSeek

Following Kimi K2, Kimi K3 adopts Muon [53] as the optimizer for its matrix parameters.

usedoptimizationin Kimi K3Moonshot AI

Muon is applied to the two-dimensional weights that act as linear maps

usedunclearin Qwen3.8-Flash-NextQwen

We employ the Muon optimizer (Jordan et al., 2024; Liu et al., 2025) for the parameters of linear transformations

usedunclearin DeepSeek-V4.1-FlashDeepSeek

the Muon optimizer

usedoptimizationin DeepSeek-V4DeepSeek

employ the Muon optimizer for faster convergence

usedoptimizationin DeepSeek-V4-FlashDeepSeek

In our experiments with Muon optimizer, we find that MLA with a 576-dimension latent KV-cache cannot match the performance of GQA-8.

usedoptimizationin GLM-5Z.ai

we follow the setting of GLM-4.5, including the Muon optimizer

usedoptimizationin GLM-5Z.ai

Muon Optimizer: We employ the Muon optimizer for faster convergence and greater training stability.

usedoptimizationin DeepSeek-V4DeepSeek

The Muon optimizer is used

usedoptimizationin Qwen3.8-Flash-NextQwen

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Other methods under optimization :: optimizer.